{"id":1843,"date":"2011-10-17T08:15:13","date_gmt":"2011-10-17T08:15:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.musicbar.cz\/?p=1843"},"modified":"2011-10-17T09:53:43","modified_gmt":"2011-10-17T09:53:43","slug":"proc-se-u-nas-nemicha-hip-hop-a-reggae-slovensti-amo-ten-recept-maji","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/nezarazene\/proc-se-u-nas-nemicha-hip-hop-a-reggae-slovensti-amo-ten-recept-maji\/","title":{"rendered":"Pro\u010d se u n\u00e1s nem\u00edch\u00e1 hip hop a reggae? Sloven\u0161t\u00ed AMO recept maj\u00ed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.musicbar.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/opak_moe.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1844\" title=\"opak_moe_\" src=\"http:\/\/www.musicbar.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/opak_moe_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/goout-wordpress-uploads\/musicbarcz\/2011\/10\/opak_moe_.jpg 170w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/goout-wordpress-uploads\/musicbarcz\/2011\/10\/opak_moe_-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/goout-wordpress-uploads\/musicbarcz\/2011\/10\/opak_moe_-900x900.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px\" \/><\/a>M\u00edch\u00e1n\u00ed hiphopu a reggae d\u00e1v\u00e1 smysl. Jeden mo\u017en\u00e1 o beatu, druhej o riddimu a co d\u011bl\u00e1 MC a co zas DJ se taky \u00fapln\u011b neshodnou, ale jinak na sebe ta muzika navazuje od sam\u00fdho za\u010d\u00e1tku. Kdy\u017e <strong>DJ Kool Herc<\/strong> jezdil v k\u00e1\u0159e po Ji\u017en\u00edm Bronxu a hledal, kde uspo\u0159\u00e1dat prvn\u00ed hiphopov\u00fd mejdany, byl je\u0161t\u011b plnej dojm\u016f z jamajsk\u00fd kultury soundsyt\u00e9m\u016f. Prvn\u00ed rapy byli vlastn\u011b reakc\u00ed na reggae toastov\u00e1n\u00ed. A propojen\u00ed, kter\u00fd za lou\u017e\u00ed fungovalo od sam\u00e9ho za\u010d\u00e1tku, funguje dodnes a nikdo se tomu nediv\u00ed. Kdy\u017e vydal <strong>Nas<\/strong> spole\u010dn\u00e9 album s <strong>Damian<\/strong>em <strong>Marley<\/strong>m, nebyl to \u0161ok, byla to pecka a mo\u017en\u00e1 symbolick\u00fd zavr\u0161en\u00ed toho vztahu spoluprac\u00ed kr\u00e1l\u016f. Pro\u010d se o n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho nesna\u017e\u00ed party i v na\u0161ich zem\u011bpisn\u00fdch<!--more-->  \u0161\u00ed\u0159k\u00e1ch je ale ot\u00e1zka jin\u00e1. Kdy\u017e se m\u00edstn\u00ed hip hop sna\u017e\u00ed po sv\u00e9m reagovat na v\u0161emo\u017en\u00e9 trendy, pro\u010d nezkus\u00ed i tohle? No, snaha u\u017e byla. T\u0159eba <strong>Orion<\/strong> sv\u00e9ho \u010dasu pat\u0159il k velk\u00fdm fanou\u0161k\u016fm raggamuffinu, kter\u00fd pou\u0161t\u011bl i na ortodoxn\u011b rapov\u00fdch mejdanech. Mezi lep\u0161\u00ed z prvn\u00ed generace dom\u00e1c\u00edch freestyle MCs pat\u0159il i <strong>Zaga<\/strong>, kter\u00fd je doma v reggae. <strong>Indy &amp; Wich<\/strong> m\u011bli na sv\u00e9m prvn\u00edm albu skladbu \u201cBrat\u0159i v r\u00fdmu\u201c s <strong>Dr.Kary<\/strong>m, <strong>Admir\u00e1l Kol\u00edbal <\/strong>p\u011bje v refr\u00e9nu skladby \u201cPecka s kurtem\u201c (alias Pro v\u0161echny flinky a floutky) z alba HDP od <strong>Prago Union<\/strong>\u2026 To jsou ale v\u00fdk\u0159iky do tmy, \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 vlna, nato\u017e trend. Nikdo dal\u0161\u00ed se toho toti\u017e bohu\u017eel po\u0159\u00e1dn\u011b nechytil. A o p\u011bt, respektive skoro deset let pot\u00e9 v ni\u010dem podobn\u00e9m nepokra\u010duj\u00ed ani tyhle 2 party. <strong>DJ Scarface <\/strong>a jeho mixtape <strong>Pragga Connection<\/strong> ale m\u016f\u017ee znamenat bl\u00fdsk\u00e1n\u00ed na lep\u0161\u00ed \u010dasy a tak jsme oslovili p\u00e1r lid\u00ed z obou t\u00e1bor\u016f a zeptali se jich na jedinou ot\u00e1zku: pro\u010d ne?  <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7VxtMMYmvak\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Indy:<\/strong> \u201eNevim, jestli na to existuje odpov\u011b\u010f co se t\u00fdk\u00e1 hudby v \u010cech\u00e1ch jako takovejch,  to je podle m\u011b dan\u00fd ko\u0159enama t\u00fd muziky, jej\u00ed z\u00e1kladnou tady atd&#8230; Ale kdysi tady byly ty party docela prom\u00edchan\u00fd, nebo se navz\u00e1jem potk\u00e1valy, i ty hodnoty byly podobn\u011b, ale stejn\u011b to v\u017edycky skon\u010dilo u p\u00e1r pokus\u016f, p\u00e1r jmen, je to asi taky tim \u017ee je reggae komunita mo\u017en\u00e1 taky v\u00edc uzav\u0159en\u00e1 a je hodn\u011b jin\u00e1 i filozoficky atd &#8211; a ty rozd\u00edly se zv\u011bt\u0161ujou. A zase pro \u010desk\u00fd &#8220;hiphopery&#8221;, tj. dost mlad\u00fd lidi nen\u00ed klasick\u00fd reggae nebo dancehall tak trendy, jako sou\u010dasnej sm\u011br kter\u00fdm se hip hop ub\u00edr\u00e1, tak\u017ee i v t\u00fdhle rovin\u011b se ty sc\u00e9ny nepotk\u00e1vaj. To je stran t\u00fd &#8220;klasiky&#8221; tady. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se objevuje spousta prvk\u016f reggae\/dancehallu v sou\u010dasn\u00fd tane\u010dn\u00ed nebo hiphopov\u00fd a popov\u00fd produkci, a m\u00e1 spoustu fans i mezi poslucha\u010dema hiphopu, kter\u00fd to ale vn\u00edmaj v pasivn\u00ed rovin\u011b &#8211; tj. to jenom konzumujou, nebo si to aspo\u0148 mysl\u00edm.\u201c  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Dr.Kary:<\/strong>  \u201eTo u n\u00e1s podle m\u011b nikdo nev\u00ed, zvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165, kdy\u017e v jin\u00fdch zem\u00edch toto propojen\u00ed funguje \u00fapln\u011b norm\u00e1ln\u011b (viz Polsko, N\u011bmecko, Francie, \u0160pan\u011blsko jen z m\u00fdch zku\u0161enost\u00ed). Mo\u017en\u00e1 je to proto, \u017ee v dob\u011b, kdy hip hop sc\u00e9na u n\u00e1s vznikala, nebyli \u017e\u00e1dn\u00ed DJs + p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b MCs, kter\u00fdm by se poda\u0159ilo dostat reggae dancehall do pov\u011bdom\u00ed. Ono i jinde je dancehall men\u0161\u00ed minorita ne\u017e hip hop&#8230; Ale z toho zase nev\u00edm, co vypl\u00fdv\u00e1:-) V ka\u017ed\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b je mi to moc l\u00edto, \u017ee se hiphop\u00e1ci p\u0159ipravuj\u00ed o kr\u00e1sy reggae dancehallu. A to jste v\u011bd\u011bli, \u017ee hip hop vlastn\u011b vzniknul z reggae?\u201c  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Orion:<\/strong>  \u201eM\u016f\u017ee to bejt t\u00edm, \u017ee u n\u00e1s nen\u00ed moc dobrejch kapel, a\u0165 u\u017e rapovejch, tak i reggae. Nebo oba \u017e\u00e1nry jdou svoj\u00ed cestou. Taky si moc nedok\u00e1\u017eu p\u0159edstavit \u010deskej raggamuffin. Do reggae beatu se \u010desky zp\u00edvat d\u00e1, d\u00e1 se do n\u011bj i rapovat, tak t\u0159eba to jednou p\u0159ijde.\u201c  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Poeta<\/strong>  (Radio Spin):\u201eTo je t\u00e9ma, o kter\u00e9m jsem hodn\u011bkr\u00e1t p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel. Podle m\u011b to vych\u00e1z\u00ed z celkov\u00e9 hudebn\u00ed nevzd\u011blanosti v t\u00e9hle zemi. Komou\u0161 n\u00e1s tu na 40 let uzav\u0159el a my to posledn\u00edch 20 let doh\u00e1n\u00edme. Tedy ten, kdo chce. Ob\u010das jsem na infarkt, kdy\u017e zahl\u00e9dnu na hiphop webu reakci typu &#8220;co tu d\u011bl\u00e1 funk, tohle je hiphopovej web!&#8221; a vlastn\u011b dost podobn\u00fd je to i s reggae a dancehallem. Respektive dancehall je pro dost lid\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b nav\u00edc &#8220;komer\u010dn\u00ed reggae&#8221;. Ale to by bylo na dlouho a na nervy, rad\u0161i to zakon\u010d\u00edm optimisticky. V\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee projekty jako je Pragga Connection nebo chystan\u00fd tejp DJ Scarface vs. James Cole tohle postupn\u011b zm\u011bn\u00ed a zlep\u0161\u00ed. Podle m\u011b je hlavn\u00ed, aby spolupracovali \u010deln\u00ed z\u00e1stupci obou &#8220;komunit&#8221; a p\u0159ijde tomu na chu\u0165 i \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed publikum.\u201c  <\/p>\n<p><strong>MessenJah<\/strong>  (reggae singjay): \u201eNemysl\u00edm si, \u017ee propojit tyto dva \u017e\u00e1nry je n\u011bjak slo\u017eit\u00e9. Dok\u00e1zali n\u00e1m to jen za posledn\u00ed rok Damian Marley s Nasem, sloven\u0161t\u00ed AMO, kte\u0159\u00ed vypustili skv\u011bl\u00e9 pecky s reggae\/ska um\u011blci, nebo t\u0159eba DJ Scarface, kter\u00fd vydal dubplate mixtape \u010desk\u00fdch rapper\u016f na jamajsk\u00fdch instrech. Tak\u017ee ono to propojen\u00ed nen\u00ed v\u016fbec obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9&#8230; Pokud se ov\u0161em pt\u00e1\u0161, pro\u010d u n\u00e1s neexistuje u\u017e\u0161\u00ed spolupr\u00e1ce mezi interprety t\u011bchto dvou proud\u016f, pak bych hlavn\u00ed odpov\u011b\u010f hledal ve vzd\u00e1lenosti text\u016f. Asi ch\u00e1pete, \u017ee nechci d\u011blat pecky o sv\u00fdm vlastn\u00edm topstv\u00ed, o tom jak se \u0161\u0148upe modr\u00e1 skalice, nebo o tom jak u\u017e nehulim tr\u00e1vu, ale jedu si &#8220;jin\u00fd drogy&#8221; a v\u0161echny pr&#8230; do huby (-: Ch\u00e1pej, \u017ee ka\u017edej m\u00e1me svoje vyjad\u0159ovac\u00ed prost\u0159edky&#8230; Ale a\u017e se najde rapper s trochu jinak hozen\u00fdma textama (vlastn\u011b u\u017e bych i jednoho na\u0161el..), tak je jen ot\u00e1zkou \u010dasu, kdy n\u011bj\u00e1k\u00e1 spolupr\u00e1ce vznikne. Douf\u00e1m, \u017ee tomu bude co nejd\u0159\u00edv, ale to mus\u00ed nejd\u0159\u00edv na\u0161e reggae je\u0161t\u011b tro\u0161ku povyr\u016fst&#8230; T\u0159eba m\u011b u\u017e dlouho bav\u00ed model Promoe a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee n\u011bco v tom duchu se na sc\u00e9n\u011b v budoucnu objev\u00ed.\u201c  <\/p>\n<p><strong>DJ Heavy Hev:<\/strong>  \u201eMockr\u00e1t jsem se nad t\u00edm zam\u00fd\u0161lel a p\u0159i\u0161el jedin\u011b na to, \u017ee je to po\u0159\u00e1d t\u00edm, \u017ee se zat\u00edm nepoda\u0159ilo vychovat fanou\u0161ka z\u00e1podevropsk\u00e9ho, sv\u011btov\u00e9ho st\u0159ihu. U n\u00e1s je to &#8220;reg\u00e9\u010dko&#8221; po\u0159\u00e1d &#8220;slun\u00ed\u010dkov\u00e1&#8221; muzika, lidi, co poslouchaj\u00ed reggae nesledujou v\u00fdvoj, poslouchaj\u00ed star\u00e9 v\u011bci p\u00e1r interpret\u016f a bl\u00ed\u017e, ne\u017e k hiphopu maj\u00ed ke kyta\u0159e, batikovan\u00fdm trik\u016fm a t\u00e1bor\u00e1k\u016fm nebo naopak k dnb a v\u0161elijak\u00fdm t\u011bm tekk\u016fm. K hiphopu nemaj\u00ed bl\u00edzko z toho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee to n\u00e1s nen\u00ed br\u00e1no jako hudba pro dosp\u011bl\u00e9, posluchaj\u00ed to d\u011bcka a ty slep\u011b se\u017eerou cokoliv, co jim jejich obl\u00edben\u00fd interpet pohod\u00ed. Lidi u n\u00e1s poslouchaj\u00ed od puberty t\u0159eba do dvaceti a pak si \u0159eknou, \u017ee u\u017e jsou na ty k\u0161iltovky a voln\u00fd hadry moc sta\u0159\u00ed a za\u010dnou posclouchat n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho, jako by se za sebe styd\u011bli a n\u011bjak jim nedoch\u00e1z\u00ed, \u017ee m\u016f\u017eou klidn\u011b nosit upl\u00fd rifle a ko\u0161ile a po\u0159\u00e1d tu hudbu milovat. No a proto\u017ee teda archetyp cz reggae fanou\u0161ka je prav\u00fdm opakem fanou\u0161ka hiphopov\u00e9ho, doch\u00e1z\u00ed tady k n\u011bjak\u00fdm f\u00faz\u00edm dost obt\u00ed\u017en\u011b. Co s t\u00edm d\u011blat do budoucna? Nev\u00edm, je to na reggae interpretech, aby se neb\u00e1li vystupovat na hiphopov\u00fdch akc\u00edch a z\u00e1rove\u0148, aby na reggae mejdanech zn\u011bl hip hop, takhle si ty lidi vychovat, to je asi jedin\u00e1 cesta. Jen\u017ee to mus\u00ed b\u00fdt pr\u00e1v\u011b promot\u00e9r u\u017ee dosp\u011bl\u00e1 osoba, kter\u00e1 m\u00e1 sama v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed rozhled, aby dok\u00e1zala takovou multi\u017e\u00e1nr akci zorganizovat a organizovat \u010dasto. To je ale samoz\u0159ejm\u011b probl\u00e9m. Nehled\u011b na to, \u017ee spousta lid\u00ed si pot\u0159ebuje na v\u0161echnu muziku d\u00e1t n\u00e1lepky, pe\u010dliv\u011b si rozt\u0159\u00eddit, co se jim l\u00edb\u00ed a co ne, aby to m\u011bli jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed. Gargantuovsk\u00fd \u00fakol, no&#8230; A boj\u00edm se, \u017ee tady tahle snaha o slou\u010den\u00ed m\u011bla prob\u00edhat sou\u010dasn\u011b s t\u00edm, jak se u n\u00e1s za\u010dal prosazovat hip hop, nev\u00edm, jestli te\u010f u\u017e nen\u00ed trochu pozd\u011b&#8230;\u201c \u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Admir\u00e1l Kol\u00edbal:<\/strong>  \u201eVid\u00edm v tom v\u00edcero d\u016fvod\u016f: Jsme v \u010cech\u00e1ch klasicky x let pozadu za trendama ve sv\u011bt\u011b a tak je tu po\u0159\u00e1d hodn\u011b lid\u00ed omezen\u00fdch \u0161katulkama. M\u00e1lo lid\u00ed v\u00ed, \u017ee prvn\u00ed hip hop DJ &#8211; Kool Herc, KRS1 a nebo soundsyst\u00e9mov\u00e1 kultura v\u0161eobecn\u011b poch\u00e1z\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b z Jamajky. A tak bohu\u017eel nevid\u00ed souvislosti, \u017ee &#8220;black music&#8221; m\u00e1 spole\u010dn\u00fd ko\u0159eny v soulu a \u017ee to je v prvn\u00ed \u0159ad\u011b v\u00fdpov\u011b\u010f lid\u00ed z ghetta. To se u n\u00e1s dost dob\u0159e ned\u00e1 autenticky reflektovat, proto\u017ee si \u017eivot v Kingstonu nebo Bronxu m\u016f\u017eeme leda vzd\u00e1len\u011b p\u0159edstavit. Ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b jamajsk\u00e1 a americk\u00e1 sc\u00e9na se navz\u00e1jem dlouhodob\u011b inspiruj\u00ed a jedin\u00fdm rozd\u00edlem mezi styly tak z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 forma beatu. Od 80. let vzniklo stovky crossover kombinac\u00ed a jm\u00e9na jako Shabba Ranks, Supercat a dnes Damian Marley nebo Beenie Man \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b bo\u0159\u00ed za\u017eit\u00e9 p\u0159edsudky. Jen\u017ee pro puber\u0165\u00e1ky u n\u00e1s, co fr\u010d\u00ed jen povrchn\u011b na rapu a nestudujou to do hloubky, asi reggae nen\u00ed dost cool, a vid\u00ed v tom jen m\u00edstn\u00ed vyp\u00e1len\u00fd batikovan\u00fd hippies, co se kol\u00edbaj na vytuhlou muziku. A obr\u00e1cen\u011b lidi, co tady chod\u00ed na reggae nejsou moc zv\u011bdav\u00fd na americk\u00fd p\u00f3zy s pozlacenejma cetkama na krku. Sbli\u017euj\u00edc\u00edm t\u00e9matem by mohl b\u00fdt dancehall, tak\u017ee rozhodn\u011b hlasuju pro, aby v prvn\u00ed \u0159ad\u011b m\u00edstn\u00ed rappe\u0159i, zp\u011bv\u00e1ci a DJs za\u010dali zkou\u0161et obohacovat sv\u00fd \u0161t\u00fdlo. Ze sv\u011bta v\u00edme, \u017ee to funguje, a t\u0159eba polsk\u00e1 nebo slovensk\u00e1 sc\u00e9na n\u00e1m dnes d\u00e1v\u00e1 dost na prdel&#8230;\u201c<\/p>\n<p><strong> Jestli chcete opravdu p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010dit, jak funk\u010dn\u00ed a \u017eiv\u00e1 tahle kombinace m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt i v na\u0161ich podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch. Jak solidn\u011b jede t\u0159eba i na Slovensku, dora\u017ete u\u017e dneska, v pond\u011bl\u00ed 17.10. do Lucerna Music Baru, kde budou A.M.O. s \u017eiv\u00fdm Bandem k\u0159t\u00edt sv\u00e9 nov\u00e9 album Positive a zap\u00e1l\u00ed v\u00e1s svou pozitivn\u00ed atmo\u0161kou. Fyah!<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-WPrF9IkhYU\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>M\u00edch\u00e1n\u00ed hiphopu a reggae d\u00e1v\u00e1 smysl. Jeden mo\u017en\u00e1 o beatu, druhej o riddimu a co d\u011bl\u00e1 MC a co zas DJ se taky \u00fapln\u011b neshodnou, ale jinak na sebe ta muzika navazuje od sam\u00fdho za\u010d\u00e1tku. Kdy\u017e DJ Kool Herc jezdil v k\u00e1\u0159e po Ji\u017en\u00edm Bronxu a hledal, kde uspo\u0159\u00e1dat prvn\u00ed hiphopov\u00fd mejdany, byl je\u0161t\u011b plnej [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,404],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1843","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nezarazene","category-novinky"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1843","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1843"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1843\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1843"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1843"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicbar.cz\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1843"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}